Wouldn't turn around and break it
And anyone who's ever played a part
Wouldn't turn around and hate it
Sweet Jo. Sweet, sweet Jo.
Who said in a comment:
"If these are the principles that define feminism, then we are all feminists now. "
Absolutely! I believe that every reasonable person in this country is a feminist, regardless of if they realize it or not.
Darling, you probably shouldn't visit Metafilter:
Is there any need for a Men's Movement?Or Plastic:
Or is the struggling existence of such organisations, and the sporadic publishing of Achilles Heel magazine, for example, evidence that organised groups and 'movements' for men are redundant? Maybe it's evidence that 'men's' needs are still under rated and unsatisfied, and that we don't focus on our needs because we are working too hard?
'Deadbeat Moms', Appearing In A News Bulletin Nowhere Near You
"The subject of 'Deadbeat Dads' is well-known for regular flogging by the media. So where are the stories about Deadbeat Moms? This is the first I've ever seen. Numerically, more fathers are remiss in child support payments, simply because mothers are more often rewarded custody of a child in the US courts. Playing the percentages reveals a different story, however: 57% of mothers required to give up at least some, if not all of the money they owe vs. 68% of dads who pay up. Moms also get about 60 percent of what they are owed, whereas dads only get 48 percent.
"So why is the Deadbeat focus always on the Dad? Are mothers somehow considered too sympathic to be the subjects of these stories? Or, is it simply the catchy lure of an alliterative label?"
Discussions that start off with the assumption that women are treated equally as men (or black people are treated equally as white people, or queers are treated equally as breeders [go on, start shit]) usually end up in some fairly bizarre territory. You get these weird comparisons, like men's movement vs. women's movement, or deadbeat moms vs. deadbeat dads.
Which aren't given quite as much of a funny vibe as, say, The National Association for the Advancement of White People (who have been held back for too long in this country/society/planet). On the other hand, there's the Defense of Marriage Act.
I'm usually more interested in how people talk about such things than about the topics themselves, because all sorts of interesting little biases come bubbling to the top. Like in the Plastic discussion, where someone says:
Feminism captured all discourse about gender in the 70s, and hasn't let go. Any attempts to discuss gender apart from feminist categories is roundly mocked and denounced, even if that discourse is not anti-feminist. The reaction to the Men's Movement of the early 90s is a good example of this.
Feminism itself, of course, is never, ever mocked and denounced. Just think of all the women who proudly call themselves feminists on tv and in movies. They're always portrayed in a positive, saint-like fashion. Characters like. . . ok, help me out here.
Or, in the MeFi thread:
Women working is simply a return to the norm of all human history from the strange upper-middle-class interlude of the late 19th and most of the 20th century, where technology and money reduced the burdens of homemaking to the point that many men could conceive of themselves as the sole support of their family, instead of a partner who completely depended upon his wife's contribution.
As for power in the family, I think that in a well-functioning family, power always has been largely equal ... and where the power wasn't equal, it was with the woman quite frequently, not the man. (Source: the domestic novels of the 18th and 19th centuries ... )
Which is probably more proof that you shouldn't base your idea of the past on domestic novels than anything else; otherwise the writer probably believes that slaves were quite happy, and queers did not exist until fairly recently.
The really scary bit about that last one is that it sounds like an enlightened attitude, but it's so ahistorical that it's actually, um, not.
Or he's right and I'm wrong. If only there were a historian in the house. . .
Anyway, social movements putting the ignored needs of straight white men front and center are obviously a necessary counterbalance to the current domination of our society by women, queers and people of color.
There are people who believe that. They resent it when you giggle at them.
All the more reason to do it, then.
Before anyone accuses me of being a dirty feminist, I'll have you know I snickered when the NPR announcer mentioned flooding in Europe was leaving "rain-soaked dykes" across the countryside, and immediately I thought of flash-flooding during MWMF. So there.
Update: As usual, the throwaway jokes produce as much discussion as the supposed topic. Not sure if this is a good or bad element of my writing style. . . Over at VASpider's, talk about word choice, connotation vs. denotation, the role gender plays in determining what's funny and what's insulting, and the time Peppermint Patty and Marcie borrowed Linus's. . . no, that joke is dead.