The stereotypical feminist would, of course, be both shocked and appalled by my linking to the Gothic Babe of the Week. Then again, the stereotypical black militant guy is violently misogynist, as well as homophobic, so there shouldn't be any women -- let alone the man-hating, castrating feminist variety -- visiting this site anyway.
Pseudo-intellectual justification available on request.
Or, y'know, there's the old joke about the Christian fundamentalist who keeps watching hours of trash television to better know their sins.
But, fuck it, Gothic Ba-- holy mother of god.
I was better at choosing those nicknames than I'd thought.
Update: Oh yeah, and I killed Industrial Radio by enjoying it, too. The old shows are still available, and just reading the playlists makes you a better person.
For certain definitions of better, anyway.
And the penultimate issue of TRANSMETROPOLITAN hit stores in the U.S. today, which isn't goth/industrial related, but I thought I'd mention it anyway.
Ok, there's always Writhe and Shine, the latest version of which you can see at OPi8.com.
Don't make me mention Gloomcookie, you mopey bastards.
Or Lenore. Just. . . go hang out in the necropolis or something.
Update:
Sorry, needed to lighten the mood. Click for more details, or to buy your own!
Update 2: Now with title and alt attributes for the Hello, Kitty tv image. Bloody Mojira. . .
We've got a pair of goths live downstairs from us. Nicest people. We knew where they lived 'cos they had bats glued to their windows, and a NIN woodcarving. We admired their cars for years, funky rice-rockets with all this bonez artwork done in vinyl. Ellen calls them up one day and BAM, I'm $1k in debt to them for tatoos and car artwork (don't marry a yankee Italian ok? just don't). But we're talking serious goth. Black felt nailed to the walls, a full-size scythe in the hallway, the works.
We're probably going to invite them to dinner next week.
MAN.
My best friend would /kill/ for a full-sized scythe. She's got such a Grim Reaper thing. o.o Okay, not kill. Maim, maybe, or deliver a really blistering screed.
I remember being goth, back before I had a kid. It's just way too high-maintenance, and all the requisite decorations are far too baby-unsafe.
I dunno what I think about these various 'babe of the week' sites, personally. But, hey, gratz to Rebec...
...wow.
I used to make corsets and trade them for tattoo work. Maybe I should get back into that. Or just post a photo. ;D
Thanks for the music link. That's going to be my background music while I compile my goddammit-stolen-music catalog and beg my insurance company to believe me. Receipts? For 15 years worth of cds, mostly bought for cash at Amoeba? Pshaw! Grr.
"The stereotypical feminist would, of course, be both shocked and appalled by my linking to the Gothic Babe of the Week."
Aw, them dames are just jealous, that's all.
"Then again, the stereotypical black militant guy is violently misogynist, as well as homophobic, so there shouldn't be any women -- let alone the man-hating, castrating feminist variety -- visiting this site anyway."
Then, you've got us Black Girls who Like Girls in Black crowd. Those kids in the paragraph above don't seem to deal with us any better than they can deal with each other, I've noticed. Oy, the choices.
I think you may have missed my comments lines on your Projekt post, no? I got there kind of late.
What the hell is a "rice-rocket"?
Rice rocket is a (rather derogatory) term for a Japanese-made motorcycle.
Jessica, you're welcome. Sorry to hear about the break-in, and the insurance company stupidity.
Laura, sorry, I did miss your other comment. California geography not my strong point, except for Coronado. Know that place like the back of my hand.
Isn't it great being marginalized in a marginalized culture? Always gives me that warm, "I hate humanity in general" sort of glow.
VASpider, we all love Rebecca for her mind, and because she has a very cool site.
I've been thinking about picking up her book, in fact.
Does it have pictures?
Of web sites! Geez, you people need to get your minds out the gutter. . .
Right, well, I didn't think you'd any great dislike for someone you had linked up as "Vamp Willow."
At least, I hope not.
Anyway, I actually had read her site before I ever came across yours, because the blog book was being discussed elsewhere. It's part of what I dig about blogging -- that part of it that some people call incestuousness, but I'd rather just call "interconnectedness."
Rebecca dominates bloggerdom. You might even call her a dominatri--
No, she can probably beat me up.
No, that's probably not the joke I wanted to make in that context.
Let's all just picture Laura in that outfit, saying, "Oo, look at those."
I'll shut up now. And hope Michelle doesn't notice the alt text on the Hello, Kitty tv image.
OK, I screwed up the rice rocket reference... meant "ricer", as in hopped up honda/toyota/nissan sedan. You can see their work here. Their car stuff is here, the black car with the big silver skull now has this freaky metallic rainbow skeletal dragon on it that looks pretty cool. They both park in our lot every day.
I'm with VASpider on this one. It's easy to be cute and goth when you don't have small humans clinging to you every second of the day. (um, it's also easier to type, in case you were wondering, when you don't have a particular small person tugging at your arms).
No, I much prefer the earth mama look these days. It's much more functional.
Gotta go do puzzles.
Besides, I doubt a corset is incredibly breastfeeding-friendly. hahahahaha.
Breastfeeding-friendly corsets. Huh. See lots of punk/goth chicks with strollers these days in the park. . .
Jessica, I see a potentially lucrative entrepreneurial opportunity awaiting you if you go back to the corset-making.
It's not, terribly, if you're wearing one like Rebecca's, no, but you can easily design them so that they /are/ breastfeeding-friendly. (For example, the corset that Vamp Willow wears has distinct cups as opposed to a flat front. Tadah! They can easily be designed to open).
While I was pregnant with my son, the wonderful women at Philadelphia Ladies Finery Co. (who really ought to have a website so I can properly pimp their wonderful work) sat down to look at historical designs with me. Since English and American women tended to wear corsets up until they really couldn't and then right again after giving birth, corsets needed to be designed for breastfeeding. The idea of letting the uterus and all that stuff settle back into place was just so darned silly. Why bother with that when you needed to have a particular body shape to be socially acceptable? Tee hee!
I just decided in the end that it was much more economical NOT to buy a corset built for breastfeeding when I wasn't going to be wearing it daily. We made me a Spanish-style nursing dress instead for Faire days.
... I'm sure this is really fascinating to everyone. But! The point remains. Corsets can be designed with that in mind, if you're of a mind to invest the kind of money into it that having a custom-built odd-pattern corset requires, which you probably don't have just lying around if you've got a kid, so being goth is much harder than it used to be.
/ramble
I am so not goth, never have been. But I'm really enjoying this conversation on goths and breastfeeding. Odd really.
i'm going to make a mozilla complaint and note that if an image also has a link, it doesn't feature the alt text as a pop up on screen (at least not in Mac OS X)...so I'd have to go into the source to find it...and as I have said many times, I'm too lazy to do shit like that.
And by the way that hello kitty pink is not nearly as offensive as the pink that you subjected us too. It's quite close to The Royal Tenenbaums soundtrack. And besides I don't mind hello kitty. Remember you sent me a hello kitty card?
Michelle, you're still capable of finding things here odd? I gave that up ages ago. And I remember the card, sweetie. I only send 'em to cool people, so it doesn't happen that often.
Jason, think if my lazy ass had used an alt and a title tag (the way I do for some images), you'd get the text in Mojira. They claim a browser is supposed to work like that, despite the way everyone else has always done.
...being a straight black goth?punk from inglewood was a bit hard in the late 80's,..late nights waiting for the 207 bus on hollywood and western so I could go home.getting all sorts of comments from crips(although they did like my blue doc martins),but since they thought that I was a "voo-doo satinist" they eventually left me alone.Im currently stuck in olympia washington,and the kids up here have never seen a black person that isnt a steriotype,or that likes rock music..they think that goth was started in 1998,and had nothing to do with L.A...I was like this before there was death-rock(which was what we called it then)too many nights watching old Hammer horror films,and P.B.S.will do that to you.
...and yes,while I have been up here,I HAVE been called uppity also,....not uppity,...just a little snotty is all....Bat-mike(me) says fly low and avoid the radar,kids.