I give up.
I was visiting angry blogger Aaron at Uppity-Negro, whose site name is almost as socially awkward as mine, and I must say I just don't know what to say.
He hates warbloggers and wants to kill one just to see 'em die.
Dawn Olsen, ladies and gentlemen.
And my exact words were, "At this point, I think I would shoot one of them just to watch him die."
I hear the train a comin'; it's rollin' 'round the bend,
And I ain't seen the sunshine since I don't know when.
I'm stuck at Folsom Prison and time keeps draggin' on.
But that train keeps rollin' on down to San Antone.
When I was just a baby, my mama told me, "Son,
Always be a good boy; don't ever play with guns."
But I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die.
When I hear that whistle blowin' I hang my head and cry.
I bet there's rich folk eatin' in a fancy dining car.
They're prob'ly drinkin' coffee and smokin' big cigars,
But I know I had it comin', I know I can't be free,
But those people keep a movin', and that's what tortures me.
Well, if they freed me from this prison, if that railroad train was mine,
I bet I'd move on over a little farther down the line,
Far from Folsom Prison, that's where I want to stay,
And I'd let that lonesome whistle blow my blues away.
Folsom Prison Blues, (Man in) black gangsta rapper Johnny Cash.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORDS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF MY MOUTH?
Chris Tucker, to Jackie Chan, Rush Hour.
To which the correct response is:
Don't nobody understand the words that are coming out of your mouth.
Chris Tucker, after Jackie Chan quotes the above line back at him, Rush Hour 2.
Darmok... and Jelad... at Tenagra.
Geek.
http://www.creativeteachingsite.com/startrek.html
okay...I tried to stifle it but I chortled, Jim.
That's how big a nerd I am.
Sokath, his eyes uncovered!
So it's perfectly fine to say anything as long as there is a reference behind it?
That's a dodge.
You continually say fucked up shit and then use your Dennis Miller routine as a cover.
Here you imply that one's ethnicity is based on their political affiliation:
"Suppose that comment I made up there could trigger a discussion of whether or not Jews are people of color. I recommend against it. My contribution to such things is usually laughing myself silly for five minutes straight, regaining my composure, clearing my throat, then laughing myself silly again. Over and over and over. I mean, I'll grant you the Beta Israel, but if we're talking the warblogger crowd, if the motherfuckers were any whiter, they'd be clear."
Some song behind that? Or I suppose I haven't been watching Deep Space Nine enough.
Hey, I'll give you credit, it's one of the first Jewish Uncle Tom rants I've had to suffer through.
Again, this shit is a dodge and the people who buy it aren't smart enough to notice or simply don't care.
I have a feeling that you're smart enough to notice what's going on though.
"The center story, focusing on the misadventures of Simon and his buddies in Las Vegas, provides the juiciest action and biggest laughs. Breckin Meyer is a hoot as Tiny, a Caucasian kid trying his damnedest to be black (`If you were any whiter, you'd be clear,' snaps one of his friends)."
All-Reviews.com Movie Review: Go (1999)
http://www.all-reviews.com/videos-3/go-6.htm
No one is forcing you to read any of this, child. If it bothers you, fuck away off.
What does that have to do with anything?
You Uncle Tommed non-liberal Jews in that quote. You got called on it and then you went into the Dennis Miller shit again.
Is that what you have to offer? Being offensive while making sure to loosely tie it to pop culture?
"got called on it"?
Is that what you think you're doing?
You amuse me.
Slightly.
Explain this "Uncle Tom" obsession of yours. That should be good for a few more laughs.
I'll play along even though you know exactly what I'm saying, old man (took me awhile to think up something to counter that "child" shot.)
You're saying that someone's political opinions get taken into account regarding whether or not they're white.
Same thing as calling someone an oreo or calling someone an Uncle Tom if you disagree with them.
I have a hard time believing you're not following me on this. Let me see, did they ever cover this on the Simpsons... maybe a reference would help?
When you live with all the advantages afforded white people in the United States until there's a political issue afoot that behooves you to throw the oppression switch back in the other direction you might get shit from people who don't have or refuse that choice.
That "ok to say anything as long as it's a reference to something" is called context, screechy.
See the Rashomon link in the next entry; Homer has a line about how, if they wanted to see Japanese people, they could go to the zoo.
It works in context.
Regarding warbloggers, I'm talking about people who are calmly (or frothing-at-the-mouthingly) calling for the indiscriminate killing of Paleostinians or Islamofascists or whatever the secret code word for sand niggers is today.
I fear that once they've run out, they'll start going after the adjectiveless niggers.
I could, of course, be wrong. After all, they like Condi Rice, and. . . well, that's the one, apparently.
Don't catch your point, goneaway. The idea of not using references as a cover refers to allusions, not the topic at hand. Otherwise, Aaron and I could play a game of "don't call me nigger, whitey" and vice versa (Sly & fam Stone) and use allusions to hide it. I think Aaron made that very joke awhile back. Screechy? I go by Diamond now, punk. I'm sure Aaron caught that one.
Aaron, still sounds like you were calling rightist Jews sell-outs if you ask me. As a point of writing (and why I'm giving you shit about Dennis Miller) if your points are so damn convoluted and intertextual, is your goal to confuse?
And, shit, tell me the truth, do you really think that the US is going to become so fucked up fighting against terrorists that somehow, somehow, somehow it's logical that we're all going to start going after blacks? If that's your point, you need to explain it a bit more because it isn't the most natural and obvious conclusion to reach.
Also sprach David Horowitz: http://www.frontpagemag.com/blog/BlogEntry.asp?ID=18
"The Los Angeles Times reports that the FBI is scrutinizing American Black Muslims for possible involvement with Islamic terrorists. My reaction: it’s about time.
"Black Muslims, as a matter of religious faith, hate white people and want to see America destroyed. Both Elijah Muhammad and Louis Farrakhan have “prophesied” Allah’s destruction of America for its alleged sins. Farrakhan – the spiritual leader of the Nation of Islam has just traveled to Iraq to pledge his solidarity with Saddam Hussein. Farrakhan and all his followers should be prime surveillance targets of any security program worthy of the name."
Not that I'm a fan of the Nation of Domination, but as far as I can tell the overheated rhetoric is the only strike against them. Since warbloggers seem to have particular difficulty distinguishing between defending someone's right to free speech and endorsing their speech/beliefs (see: Chomsky, Noam and Faurisson, Robert), this would make me a "follower" and "prime surveillance target".
Which means some poor field agent would be bored to tears. Most interesting plans I have for the immediate future are seeing Margaret Cho's new movie on Saturday.
To whom am I suggesting right wing Jews are selling out, by the way?
Just out of curiousty have those poeple who seem to enjoy throwing out the term "Uncle Tom" actually read the book "Uncle Tom's Cabin?" Do you actually know what the character Uncle Tom was about? Or have you just bought into the pop culture bastardized version of what "an Uncle Tom" is? Really. I'm just curious.
At tenagra. On the sea....
That's all I can remember from that episode.
>>"I have a hard time believing you're not following me on this. Let me see, did they ever cover this on the Simpsons... maybe a reference would help?"
Aaron, on the original point of "To whom am I suggesting right wing Jews are selling out, by the way?" I think you're just being obtuse. I'm not saying anything complicated there and again it's hard to believe you're not following me.
On Horowitz, do you mean to tell me that because you support Farrakhan's right to free speech, then it's natural to assume the FBI is coming after you? What a stretch. Wow. They're coming after more people than just you then. They better hire some more people. The only fun point left to debate on that is who's life they would find more entertaining, yours or mine. I just looked outside my window and didn't happen to see a non-descript white van with tinted windows. Maybe it's that roofing and siding van, hmmm?
Yeah, Michelle, I read Uncle Tom's Cabin yet I also realize that words are used in different ways over time. Like "gay" for instance, call me gay and I don't think you're saying I'm a happy free-spirit anymore. If you're going to suggest that I haven't read enough to participate in this discussion, how about I throw out some books and you can tell me if you've read them? I'm sure we've all read some things a bit more complex than silly old Stowe.
Back the fuck off. I didn't attack you. I was asking a question. Since when isn't it alright to ask someone if they are aware that the way they are using a term isn't the way the term was originally meant. That's all. I heard an interesting discussion on NPR about it the other day so it was at the front of my mind. I was just curious. That's why I said in my comment "I'm just curious."
But feel free to throw out book titles. I will answer honestly. I don't take it as a personal attack if someone asks me if I have read a book. I won't even call the authors "silly."
And I won't even mind if you call me gay.
Blow Hard, I could follow your torturous comparison of my (supposed) treatment of right-wing Jews with the (supposed) treatment of right-wing Blacks, but you lost me with, "sounds like you were calling rightist Jews sell-outs".
Again I ask, who am I suggesting they're selling out to?
I doubt the gov't is listening to Horowitz -- what sane person does? -- but seems to me that if he was running the show, it wouldn't be mega super happy fun for me.
Oh, and eavelay ethay ilitantmay esbianlay aloneway. The pink is already bringing on a killing spree. . .
Michelle, look at your first post. "who seem to enjoy throwing out the term", "actually read", "you actually know", "have you just bought into". I read your tone and responded in kind. I have no need to see what books you read, arguments should stand on their own. I was just retorting your attempt at literary oneupsmanship. Btw, I do think Stowe is silly, most people who read her fiction aren't overly impressed. Second, the fact that more people read that book instead of something by Douglas is why I feel the need to make fun of it.
Aaron, who are they selling out to? Nebulous concept and one that I never got into myself. It seems that the idea of an Uncle Tom has more to do with who they are selling out, not who they are selling out to. Again, not my argument so I can't express it for you.
Well if you read my tone you sure as hell read it wrong. But if you read negativity from this one...then you are reading it correctly.
one might argue that the important aspect of 'selling out' is dependent on perspective.
But regardless of perspective, a key aspect of 'selling out' is that there has to be someone or something to sell out to.
They're not teaching pig latin in schools anymore either, I see.
Like Jason said, sell out is transitive, even if the object is usually implicit, and left out. Unless this is another shift in meaning I was unaware of.
You should listen to the announcers on Radio K. There's some funky vowel shift going on, and they sound vaguely Canadian. . .
Sorry. Decided to wash the meds down with a bottle of Mike's Hard Cranberry Lemonade, and that may have been a mistake.
Well, let's end this on agreement then, I think that Mike's Hard Cranberry Lemonade is always a mistake.