Is Olivia supposed to appear on Ripper?
See, I got the link from Giles, and. . . aw, skip it. From The Atlantic | December 2002 | Interracial Intimacy:
Over the years legions of white-supremacist legislators, judges, prosecutors, police officers, and other officials have attempted to prohibit open romantic interracial attachments, particularly those between black men and white women. From the 1660s to the 1960s, forty-one territories, colonies, or states enacted laws—anti-miscegenation statutes—barring sex or marriage between blacks and whites, and many states ultimately made marriage across the color line a felony. Such laws crystallized attitudes about interracial intimacy that remain influential today, but all were invalidated by the U.S. Supreme Court in 1967, in the most aptly named case in all of American constitutional history: Loving v. Commonwealth of Virginia.
Be nice if the story ended there. No such luck, of course:
The great but altogether predictable irony is that just as white opposition to white-black intimacy finally lessened, during the last third of the twentieth century, black opposition became vocal and aggressive. In college classrooms today, when discussions about the ethics of interracial dating and marriage arise, black students are frequently the ones most likely to voice disapproval.
I could break this down by class, gender and orientation, but that would involve research, since Randall Kennedy didn't bother to do it. There is quite a bit of background for those utterly unfamiliar with the subject, but it's all very old news to those of us who've lived it.
There's also a bit (well, a paragraph) on Native American/white and Asian-American/white marriages, but like Giles (and a while back, Laura) points out, that's a rather limited view. . .
In actually interesting news, the Ripper category at WHEDONesque links to an article saying the show is still possible.
And everyone remembers Olivia, right?
Comments
Olivia was wonderful in her one shot(right?) appearance. Even if she didn't get to talk much. It being "Hush" and all.
I'd very much enjoy watching a little "Ripper" on BBC America.
Posted by: Jason | November 20, 2002 4:48 PM
Um, at least three appearances. Also "The Freshman" and "Restless."
Or that's what I get from my sievelike memory and a quick glance at Google search results.
Of course, *spoilers* the end of Tuesday's episode makes all this look moot.
Posted by: Aaron | November 20, 2002 5:19 PM
Have I mentioned that I love your spoiler-hidingness?
I do.
I still haven't seen Conversations with Dead People. I guess I'd have been more motivated if there'd been, you know, Tara in it.
Wah.
Posted by: VASpider | November 20, 2002 5:27 PM
VASpider, de nada. I'll probably be doing the tape-delayed viewing thing myself next week, after all.
That said, Conversations was actually pretty good, despite the lack of Tara. Honest.
Posted by: Aaron | November 21, 2002 9:24 AM
Of course I remember Olivia. It would be cool to see Ripper wouldn't it? I just don't think the stars are going to align for it though.
Posted by: Michelle | November 21, 2002 9:29 AM
Aaron taped it for me, VA, so if'n ya want, we could maybe just ship it to you after he brings it up to me next week?
Ah, the smell of collective Buffy-geekness in the morning.
Posted by: Heather | November 21, 2002 9:29 AM
Oh, I have it, Heather, I'm just not allowed to watch it until my housemates and I can all watch it together.
This is because as much as I bitch about spoilers, I have this horrible habit of saying, "Oh, I know what comes next" if I've seen something before, and this drives my husband insane.
I do appreciate the offer muchly, though. The smell of collective Buffy-geekness in the morning is almost as tasty as a really good coffee brewing.
Almost.
Posted by: VASpider | November 21, 2002 10:23 AM
Michelle, it looks like Firefly isn't long for this world, so maybe that'll free time in everyone's (well, Whedon's) schedules for Ripper?
I can dream, can't I?
Heather, you do realize I'm going to forget to bring the tape unless you remind me, right?
Posted by: Aaron | November 21, 2002 10:29 AM
Actually the latest word on the street is that Firefly is going to be picked up for at least the rest of this season. That's not terribly good new for Ripper now is it?
Posted by: Michelle | November 21, 2002 10:52 AM
Having finally seen Conversations with Dead People, I'm actually glad that Amber Benson wasn't in it. I think it would have traumatized me much more seeing her deliver the lines that her replacement delivered.
I mean, said replacement was good and all, don't get me wrong; that's probably why I would be so traumatized to have seen the same damaging stuff come out of AB's mouth.
Posted by: VASpider | November 22, 2002 6:57 PM
It's not about TV, but i say native american in the post, so here goes my mouth: After reading this post i got to thinking and i took a walk around the lac seaul reserve 30 min from where i live. not a palface to be seen - unless of course the reptilian brain kicked in and they knew i was looking and promptly stripped nekkid to blend in with northwestern ontarios neverending accumulation of snow (was that a run on?). No one is married to white people. I even checked at the band office. Then i started to wodner more. So i went for a drive. I visited 7 reserves between here and the american border, you know - so as to take actual civilization into account, and i found only ONE white guy married to a native woman. Amazing. Then i got home and started thinking more.
I polled my kindergarten class composed entirely or "town" kids (like a city but without mass transit and/or blacks) and discovered an astonishing 73% of my class had one white parent living at home. amazing... so i got ahold of the band rolls for treaty 3 and the parent lists from my school and the one at mine center... it turns out all the mixed race families live off reservation.
Anyhow... i would write a paper you know, but sociology is for grad students and i gotta teach kindergarten and shit.
Posted by: uppity-shinob | December 3, 2002 12:18 AM