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Where "they" might be Canadians, although Melissa Ferrick seems to like 'em:
Everyone at this club is so cool and supportive as well tonight i had two musical guests One woman named Martina who playes violin, she played on two new songs , Bad Bad Girl and another new one called Anythign Anywhere and then this guy named Jay who plays Jembay,. do not know how to spell that word so you can figure it out ,..you know it is that drum that people play he he he LOL ok,..ya well you get the idea he played that on North carolina , Every Three Words, and The Stranger,..it was so fun to hang and play i think for jsut over 2 hours with locals and feel at home so far away from home. Tomorrow or later today..in about twelve hours I play in Calgary. This is a great city[.]
Clearly, we should not permit this woman back in Our Great Nation, writing such things on Loyalty Day.
"They" might also be artists, like the ones I spent last evening with. Oh, and my date ditched me halfway through the evening. Thanks for nothing, Dresen. I did check in with Pamela and Olivia before leaving, and we would have told cruel jokes at your expense, if we weren't all terrified of you. So, um, there. Yeah.
(I'm not thinking about how, when I go somewhere with theater people in attendance, they ask if I'm one of them, while last night I was asked if I had anything on display. It's the dreads, I'm sure. The folks last night must have mistaken me for Zombie Basquiat.)
Mostly, though, when I talk about them, I mean people like the ones in this here thread:
Sure, that sounds lovely. A nice party with one year olds and joyous parents. Swell. Norman Friggin' Rockwell.Let's see what happens to these kids as they grow up. Let's see how well-adjusted they all. Maybe they'll be fine. Maybe you're right about gay parents just being parents. But maybe not. Maybe you're very, very wrong. In either case, it's way, way too premature to declare this experiment a success.
Save the victory lap for when you have some evidence that your hypothesis is correct. For now, all you have is wishful thinking, and that goes double for your amen corner.
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Unless I completely misunderstood 8th grade biology class, the two women are not the child's parents. The child's parents are one of the women and the gay man.
There are no such things as "gay parents", only parents, one of which is a man and one of which is a woman. Wishing it were otherwise does not make it so.
Traditionally there has been a social and psychological cost to children raised in broken families. If your "families" based on homosexual relationships really catch on, one of the social outcomes will be abrupt decline of the human population.
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"Gay" parents are NOT "parents". It is amazing that one has to explain in this day and age that a child's parents are its mother and father. Why do PC ideologues insist on lying about something so basic and obvious? It is sad that every child cannot have a loving mother and father. A strong family requires both quite different functions. But the answer to that inescapable biological need is not to pretend that mixed-up permanent adolescents can fill either or both roles at whim.
That's comments in an entry about attending a fucking birthday party, where there were some gay parents and their children in attendance.
My fault for looking for that sort of thing, or rather looking for reviews/mentions of Families Like Mine, as there was mention of homo-hostile people who seemed very, very down on the very idea of gay parents.
One of the things Samuel Delany mentioned in his lecture at Northwestern a few weeks back is how valuable it can be to talk to people who hate you. Preferably in an envirionment where you can get the fuck away quicklike should they decide to become violent.
I'm not sure if the 'net counts, since there's that anonymity thing which tends to make people. . . anyone got a link to the recent Penny Arcade strip about that sort of thing?
I'm also wondering if there's any benefit to talking to people you hate.
Can't think of anyone I actually hate, so there's no way to find this out. There's folks I seriously dislike, and wouldn't piss on if they were on fire, but that's not quite the same thing. I think.
Sorry. Babbling. Did I mention the Two Buck Chuck Merlot at the art show last night?
Update: Goes right to me head, the wine does. . . should mention that the author of the entry I pulled the hate speech quotes from does not subscribe to their beliefs. And also that my current attitude towards those who did (and warbloggers/right wingers generally) is, since you kids clearly don't want to live in a diverse society, rather than having your prejudices written into the Constitution, why don't you just go the fuck away? No, really, find a nice country full of hateful het white folk like yourselves and leave the rest of us in peace? You'll be happier, we'll be happier, seems like a win/win to me.
Oh, and a couple weeks back I added Protein Wisdom to my MT Blacklist, um, blacklist, because Jeff was annoying the fuck out of me. I expect I should remove that, since that's really not what the list is meant for.
True, I had to delete two comments and MT Blacklist caught and rejected a third, but perhaps he's caught on to the whole "not feeling like dealing with your bullshit" thing,
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Hey - We thought you ditched us! We had decided to bail and get food so the three of us scoured the room looking for you to see if you wanted to join us. When we couldn't find you we thought you had come to your senses and skeedaddled out of there. Where you hiding in the bathroom or what?
But thanks for coming to the show. I hope it gave a little insight into why I'm the way I am... Y'know, being so gosh-darn charming and all that. It was great finally meeting you, as well.
Posted by: kris dresen | May 2, 2004 10:54 AM
Kris, must'a been I was out having a smoke. Darn my poisonous addiction. . .
No worries, I had a nice time, and it was wonderful meeting you.
Despite you introducing me as your minion.
Several times.
Posted by: Aaron | May 2, 2004 11:12 AM
Ah, you're quite right. Minion wasn't very nice at all. Sorry 'bout that.
Perhaps apostle would have been better?
Posted by: kris dresen | May 2, 2004 11:17 AM
Well, that still beats, "my assistant, Beaker," I suppose.
Or cyberstalker. You never did introduce me to. . . wait, is that one of the things I'm not supposed to mention? Like the WonderCon thing?
And I've forgotten the name of the pre-Boondocks Boondocks strip you mentioned, because I suck.
Posted by: Aaron | May 4, 2004 9:37 AM