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September 10, 2002

Yep, the horse is still dead

George doesn't have comments permalinks; the material below which isn't linked is from the, er, discussion at his place. Probably saving quite a bit of space doing that at this point. And I imagine Jason is either going to trim more of the things (do I want to know what was in the ones you removed?), or delete the lot. A few weeks back, with much less provocation, I was strongly tempted to delete this entire site and take up knitting.

What provocation? The accusations, mostly.

Of Anger.

If black people are angry that the commercial somehow demeans them, those of you who are offended, bothered by it need to stop making everything about race.

And of Hatred.

Quit hatin'! Get some therapy or have a drink or something... Let dat shit go! Oops, I used ebonics.

OH MY GOD! It's people like (most of) you writing here that make the world so hateful. I LOVE the commercial and would have never thought anything racist was going on there.

Then there's the ritual invocation of Confusion.

Maybe I'm failing to see the issue here [. . .] I am a straight white male

I am somewhat confused as to why people would have a problem with the Joe Boxer commercial. I am white, so maybe that is the problem.

I don't understand why people have to see this as a RACE issue. I'm a white male, and maybe I don't GET IT either.

I don't want to sound like Pollyanna here...but WHY do so many people look for hatred where none exists? I just don't understand. I'm a white girl, from the suburbs

And much, much Offering of Unsolicited Advice.

Get a life. This is an underwear ad for heaven sake.

Get a clue it's an ad doing exactly what it was meant to do, and very well I might add.

Man, lighten up!

The comments I've read are making it a race issue and it shouldn't be. The sooner this sort of complaining stops, the sooner we'll be finished with race issues. We live in America and we are "one people, indivisible" as the Pledge ofAllegiance says. Who cares what color our skin happens to be... we should just all relax and enjoy each other's company.

But seriously, dont try and use racism as a card in every thing you see. The white man is not tryng to keep you down. Its far past time for the black community to do some constructive work on its image and role in society. The thug look and speech does very little to enhance the black image as a productive society member. I live in Atlanta and ride public transportation everyday. I am most times the only white man on the bus and notice that at least 50 percent of the black men onboard are trying to imitate (at least in dress and speech) this weeks favorite thug style rapper. You can't even understand what they are saying anymore, and I laugh my a-- off when they're pants fall off.

Hugh asked why I demanded original thoughts around here, and suggested that some ideas reappear because there's a grain of truth to them. Perhaps, but the lack of originality in the above quotes, and there's much much more if you're bored, isn't really moving any conversations forward, and I'm failing to see any truth in any of them.

Luckily, the angry black guys (to use John Hawkins' phrase) who post here are too closed-minded (to use Hugh's) for such chatter. Darn it all to heck.

On the other hand, we usually have discussions. Most of those posts are talking at some figment of the poster's imagination, rather than to either George or Jason. Those last links are to the afterset parties, which probably won't get nearly as many visitors. The ones in the original threads don't seem bright enough to figure their way around.

Perhaps there's something to be learned from all this, other that that Slate readers are by and large ignorant cracka-ass crackas, but I ain't seeing it.

Not sure about the full-quote links in some of those, especially with how the style sheet handles 'em. Guess I could play with that. Or try some inline style for them. Or delete this entire blog and start on making scarves for my relatives as Kwanzaa gifts.

Update: slightly altered links to comments at Jason's site. After demonstrating the patience of several saints, he finally turned the things off.

At this point, George Kelly is the Kwisatz Haderach.

Posted by Aaron at September 10, 2002 07:20 AM

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